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Sunday, September 17, 2006

Get an Apology, Shoot a Nun

UPDATED: I'm a secularist, and "that's bad enough." Well, let me make this perfectly clear: I hate religious wars.

Just hate them. Just sick of them. Hate it all. Makes me angry. Makes me cry. And yes, I'm pointing my condemning finger at China, too.

Got that?
In retaliation for whoever the hell ancient wheezebag it was that the Pope was quoting this time (theologians are always quoting each other; something to do with the "oral tradition"), Islamist nutjobs have shot a nun. Four times.

In the back.

At a children's hospital.

Cowardly fucks!

And the Pope apologized. I wish that he would just (and would have in the first place just) shut up. What was he apologizing for? Offending Muslims? He's already offended many atheists and do you see us rioting like a pack of lunatics? Do Muslims have some inherent right not to be offended? Frankly, I disagree with that decaying Byzantine emperor's statement about Mohammed not bringing anything but "evil," but it was his opinion and he's dead, for pity's sake! Talk about thin-skinned.

You know what? I think that it's time that the West quit offending countries like Somalia and Saudi Arabia with the presence of infidel nurses and doctors and let these paragons of virtue manage their own health care. (My boyfriend's mother was a nurse in Al-Riyadh for a few years. Thousands of Saudi princes and princesses, and they have to hire Western nurses and doctors. Holy shit.)

Let's see how long they last, after every Western nurse, doctor, and aid worker has hauled ass out of there and these loopy looters are left to themselves and their neighbors who like to burn down girls' schools.

After all, there's a reason why so many of the moderate, sane Muslims I know are over here, instead of longing for a nation of "pure Islam" as so many new converts do.

Some other time I'll give an account of a really interesting debate that I saw between some moderate Muslim emigrants and natural-born, fanatical, newly-converted Americans to Islam. But, until then, blame the secularists! We're scarrrwwwy!


Blogger JanieBelle said...

Fundies (of all stripes) do the damnedest things...

September 18, 2006 8:27 AM  
Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

Isn't the pope supposed to be infallible? So why did he need to apologise twice?

September 18, 2006 9:00 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Geez, good point, BeepBeep. I didn’t even think of that!

JanieBelle, I have such a love-hate relationship with the ruling family of Saudi Arabia. On the one hand, their patriarch Abdul Aziz ibn-Saud was a very interesting man with a vision. (I’m not going to expect a bedouin at the turn of the century to be a feminist, but by all accounts he treated his wives and concubines very well.) His descendents are by and large urbane, sophisticated people who love Western culture and come here to be educated. On the other hand, his descendants are perfectly capable of building that nation into an independent, educated populace, but they’re building lots of shopping malls, while at the same time letting little girls burn to death in a school fire because they weren’t properly veiled to run out of the burning buildings!

Saudi Arabia is in the red financially, and has practically no modern infrastructure, and considering how awash they are with oil, there’s no excuse for that! The Saudis themselves have a saying; “My grandfather drove a camel. My father drove a car. My son flies a plane. His grandson will drive a camel.”

That does not have to be.

September 18, 2006 9:25 AM  
Anonymous ConcernedEngineer said...

You hate religious wars. I'm not crazy about any wars myself. But secular wars can be just as deadly and bloody and unjust and downright silly and tragic as religious wars.

Just look at the American Civil War, WWI, WWII, and Vietnam.

War is hell. It is good that you hate war. But unless you are a pacifist (which you appear not to be), then the cause for your fight had better be moral and just. And, as I've said before, as soon as you start talking about justice and morality, you are talking about religion.

Religious people have, at times, done "the damnedest things" (literally, right now they are probably suffering damnation for their damnable hypocrisy). But secularists also have a pretty good track record for doing damnable things too.

Sin is sin - whether it is done in the name of secularism or in the name of religion. And we should confront injustice wherever we see it - whether it is secular injustice or religious injustice.

But again, I would suggest to you that you hate injustice because God made you that way. God created you in His image with dignity. That is why, even if you don't know it or believe it, you fight so hard for people to treat each other with the proper dignity and respect.

God's peace to you, friend.

September 18, 2006 12:07 PM  
Anonymous ConcernedEngineer said...

I looked over several of the articles you had linked to.

Prophecy is being fulfilled. See Revelation. Keep watching the news. A one world global government is coming. I don't know if it will start out secular or religious (but then again, secularism is a religion). But it will become an openly religious government. It will be ruled by evil people, who will do all kinds of evil things. The message of the cross will not be tolerated. Those who stay committed to Jesus Christ will be put to death. And I would speculate that they will be put to death quite often by Muslims.

I think that Europe is going to fall to Islam. Europe is hugely secular right now. Most of them seem to not know what a syllogism is (not to say that most secularists don't know what a syllogism is). Most of them deny the existence of moral absolutes. Having abandoned her Christian roots, Europe has embraced postmodernism. And so, civilization is being threatened.

Of course, I could be wrong. There could be a massive revival - an outpouring of God's Spirit on people. He is Sovereign. It can happen. Millions and millions of French and Italians and Germans could fall on their knees, confess their sins, and embrace Jesus Christ. People could rise up with great compassion and a prophetic voice and speak the truth in love.

If that happens, then I think Europe will have the strength to resist and win the war that Muslims will bring to Europe. If not, then it is entirely possible for all of Europe to look like the Middle East within the next 50 years.

And unless a large percentage of Americans stay true to Jesus, then America will turn her back on Israel, and end up like Europe. But the Muslims won't be content with that. They will continue to terrorize us and to wage their global guerilla war. And secularists will keep pushing for a one world government - even as the UN stands by apathetically while genocide and other injustice continues to rage in countries like the Sudan.

We have a just and moral reason to fight this war against Islamic extremism. We must be vigiliant, or we will become slaves to Islamic tyranny.

Many Americans, for some reason, think that we are invincible - that this could never happen. But it can happen. It doesn't have to happen. We can be confident that it won't happen. But we shouldn't take it for granted that it can't happen.

And I'm not advocating hate against Muslims, secularists, or anyone else. I am merely making predictions and thinking this through.


September 18, 2006 12:38 PM  
Anonymous ConcernedEngineer said...

I hate to monopolize this blog, but Father Jonathon's analysis was too interesting and too relevant to pass up. Check it out.,2933,214338,00.html

September 18, 2006 12:51 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

It's late, but I will say that I've read it and read it. I had 18 years of Bible study. (Been an atheist since 9, but I tried not to be and even got confirmed.)

No offense, but I've had Revelation quoted at me when Gorbachev was supposed to be the anti-Christ, when Kaddafyi was, when Sadaam Hussein was (during the first Gulf War), when Clinton was, when Hillary was, when Howard Stern was. Look, I don't think that Revelation is anything other than a prediction made by oppressed Jews about the fall of the power of Rome, which ultimately happened yet didn't.

I certainly think that Christians will be put to death by Muslims (one already was). I also think that Muslims will be put to death by Christians, that Jews will be put to death by Muslims and Christians, that Christians and Muslims will be put to death by Jews, that Muslims and Hindus will continue to fight over Kashmir, etc., etc.

But secular wars can be just as deadly

Most religious wars have a secular component. For instance, the Salem Witch Craze was largely a land-grab, even though it started out with a small group of impressionable girls. I don't differentiate between wars for ostensibly religious purposes and other wars. They all suck.

War is hell

If war was hell, it wouldn't happen to children. War is worse than hell.

September 18, 2006 11:26 PM  

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