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Sunday, January 07, 2007

Computational Enzyme Kinetics and Proteomics (truncated)

Jonathan Vos Post, in response to my and others' requests, has kindly posted one of his papers at the Sal Cordova thread at Good Math, Bad Math.

(Assuming I can handle this level of discussion, I'll have to read it later this week because--ta da!--school starts for me again, and I've been busy reading one of my texts for the first night of classes. Everything you never wanted to know about indexing, abstracting, the construction of thesauri, etc. Doesn't that sound like fun? You know what's really scary is, it does to me. I'm having a ball reading this stuff... Maybe I could be a professional indexer. Augh! Nerd alert! Run!)

(And shimmy while you run! I'd like a little sugar for a change. *wink*)

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Blogger Greg Laden said...

There is a book on how to index?

Does it cover the "subject index" vs. "author index" controversy?

Well, I suppose you could look that up in the index....

January 08, 2007 10:09 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

There are many books on how to index: whether or not to combine the subject and author indexes, whether or not to have a nested or run-on index, whether or not to elide page ranges or list them, etc., although the text for my class combines these issues in a comprehensive way.

There is also a national organization that has set standards for indexing.

It's not as simple as one would think.

January 08, 2007 10:26 AM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

.... I'm sorry, I simply could not resist the silly remark. The concept simply struck me as a little funny.

Yes, there is more to it than many people realize. This becomes apparent when you find a book with a really crappy index. (Or, as occasionally happens, a mediocre book that is significantly enhanced with a really good index).

I am in awe of your profession!

January 08, 2007 10:39 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Thank you. I should clarify that it’s not my profession yet.

Incidentally, the first line in the book is, “I just ‘googled’ Google…”

(Now, why didn’t I think of that?)

January 08, 2007 11:44 AM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

Now does that mean that the looked up Google or that they did a google thing on google... (i.e. is it a logical statement or a redundancy...)

... oh never mind, it's probably not important. But next time I need a book indexed, I'll look you up.

January 08, 2007 1:43 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

She googled Google--in other words, she put "google" in the Google search window!

But next time I need a book indexed, I'll look you up.

Why, thanks again. (You might want to see what grade I get, first!)

January 08, 2007 4:11 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

Well, I had to try it, and not surprisingly, the first entry is for "" and there are a LOT of other entries.

But wait, I do have a serious question for you. My wife and I were just talking about this yesterday: Is there (in Minnesota) a market for part time piecework (meaning now and then-ish) work in copy editing and stuff like that? If so, how does one pursue that?

And finally, I had always assumed that "google" was named after the number. But then I saw the word "google" in the paired up configuration in your post (googled google) and realized it could be from the Frank Zappa tune "Nanook Rubs It" ("Great Googly Moogly" I think he says...)

January 08, 2007 7:18 PM  
Blogger PiGuy said...

When buying a book, especially one for work, I always check out the Index first. That's the way I use most books at work - seek and pounce. A well-indexed book saves bunches of time.

Well, I just had to try it. I typed 'google' into the Google search field and clicked on the first link. Which, of course, provided a search field, into which I entered 'google', etc. That's my second infinite loop today...

January 08, 2007 7:19 PM  
Blogger Rev. Barking Nonsequitor said...

Soon, there will be yellow snow to frolic in.

January 08, 2007 10:29 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

I hope so.

We were planning on getting my daughter x-country skis (we usually rent them for her) but I'm not so sure about the wisdom of buying a set of boots that she'll only be able to wear between zero and one time this year!

January 08, 2007 11:31 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

I just googled Google and found something called "Google Scholar": Provides a search of scholarly literature across many disciplines and sources, including theses, books, abstracts and articles. (

A well-indexed book saves bunches of time.
Absolutely! I check the index, too.

Watch out where the huskies go, Rev. Bark!

Aw, get her some boots, Greg. All the other kids will have them.

January 09, 2007 8:53 AM  
Blogger PiGuy said...

Wow - multiple Zappa references. To that, I can only add:

I'm going to be a dental floss tycoon.

January 09, 2007 9:26 AM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

Kristine: Yes, Google Scholar is great. It often leads to dead ends that you need to have a subscription or password to get past, so it can be a little frustrating, but generally it is the best way to get to the original scholarly work. I find Google Scholar and Amazon, in combination, a better way to work than University indexing and the libraries.

Yea, I think we will get the boots. It's gotta snow some time, some where...


January 09, 2007 9:37 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Yea, I think we will get the boots. It's gotta snow some time, some where...

Maybe in Texas. ;-)

January 09, 2007 11:19 AM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

You would think that in Minnesota this would not be a big problem.

January 09, 2007 6:29 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

That's okay--it was still plenty cold while I was waiting for the bus after class tonight.

January 09, 2007 11:06 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

I applaud you for your car-freeness. Alas, I live 25 miles away from campus, so when I'm teaching my night class this semester, I'll be driving my fuel efficient car.

January 10, 2007 12:34 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Got no car—
Got a bus pass,
Day or night,
She conserves gas—
She loves her planet,
But no biking as yet,
So shimmy through a winter wonderland!

January 10, 2007 3:26 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

Got no bus --
Got a Suburoo
But what's the fuss
He got telecomoo
Exurbs bad jive
but that's where he be
'till time arrive
to the city flee

(I think “telecomoo” has one “m”)

January 11, 2007 12:17 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

C'est mon blog, and I'll
reply if I want to,
reply if I want to,
reply if I want to.

You would surf too,
if you drank Folger's brew!

(Talk about Jeff Goldblum and his liquid lunch. Blech. It's all we have in this office today.)

January 11, 2007 4:16 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

Roses are red,
Violets 'R blue
Your blog is great
My hat's off to you!

My compliments on your excellent French.

January 11, 2007 8:22 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

That French ventriloquist taught me a lot.

January 12, 2007 12:34 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...


Before I can respond to that (if I even should) I nered to know if you are talking about Jerome Murat or the Amazon Women on the Moon? (or just some French guy where his hand shouldn't be?)

January 12, 2007 1:40 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Guy? Did I say anything about a man? ;-)

C'est ne qu'un plaisanterie. Ca me plait de rire. Je suis plein de joie de vivre! Plus someone at AtBC thought I was a "sock-puppet." I assure you, I am real.

January 12, 2007 3:15 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

Hey, get your own off color fantasy...

(or wait, maybe yours is better).

But seriously, how did this all start? Oh, right, we were talking about the weather. I was just looking at a snow cover map for Minnesota. The scale goes up to 787 inches. (That is an absurd number of inches, of course ... it must be some sort of global scale that is sometimes used in Greenland...) They are getting 7 inches up in the arrowhead but everywhere else is bare.

Oh, and I was asking you about the freelance market for copy editing and proof reading in the Twin Cities. Is there one?

And... I also wanted to know if you knew about Cafe Scientifique?

January 12, 2007 4:18 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Oh, and I was asking you about the freelance market for copy editing and proof reading in the Twin Cities. Is there one?

I'm sure there is. I'm not in on that specialty, so I don't know much about it. Actually, it's been a long time since I made $$$ writing. I've been working on my "art." *Sigh* I'm preparing for another rejection soon... Buck up, Kristine...

And... I also wanted to know if you knew about Cafe Scientifique?

John and I went to the one held on Valentine's Day. I haven't been able to go since, because of my schedule. But it's a great idea, and I love what they've done with the space.

January 12, 2007 5:07 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

The Valentine day one was out for my wife and I... That happens to be Amanda's birthday.

(...We've made it a point to move any kind of "anniversary" sort of thing to the nearest widely celebrated holiday, because neither of us can ever remember these things....)

Anyway, we had other things we wanted to do. (Although Cafe Scientifique is definitely a great date.)

The next one is "Human Hearing and the Frog Chorus" ... ah, such lovely memories, the days when the outdoors had living things in it ... But it's at the Bryant lake Bowl. I've not attended the Cafe at the Bowl, I wonder how that will be.

January 12, 2007 5:35 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

When is it? It seems to me that they're on Tuesdays, and I have class on Tuesdays (and Mondays, and Wednesdays--urk).

I was the only one taking notes at Cafe Scientifique. (Nerd! Nerd alert!)

January 12, 2007 11:34 PM  
Blogger Greg Laden said...

It is usually Amanda that is the only one taking notes there. Here are the details:

Human Hearing and the Frog Chorus
Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 6:30 p.m.
Bryant-Lake Bowl ... Mark Bee studies the mechanisms and evolution of acoustic communication in animals. Humans with hearing loss often cannot pick out an individual voice amid background noises, but frogs in a chorus excel at this. What can we learn from their abilities? Could the encroaching sounds of traffic and other human noises be threatening animals’ important ability to recognize acoustic signals?

And then,

The Human Hambone
Thursday, January 18, 2007, 7 p.m.
Auditorium, Bell Museum
$7; $5 students and members
A celebration of performers who use every part of the human body to make music. From the syncopation of tap and step dancing to the amazing, drum-like sounds the mouth is capable of making, this documentary reveals how the body can express a surprising variety of musical tones.

(The film sounds interesting but a little "different" for science on screen" ... and it seems like a different format)

There is a Darwin documentary on Feb 1.

The schedule is here:


January 13, 2007 6:08 AM  

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