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Sunday, February 18, 2007

Dawkins Vs. a Talking Booger, Uncensored!

The Science Pundit just sent me this uncensored (but mercifully blurred at key spots) video clip of Dawkins' interview with the, um, er, incorrigible Rev. Ted Haggard, who has just supposedly been "cured" of teh gay. Get out your hankies, but not for the reason you think! (I laughed! I...uh, I laughed!)

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Blogger beepbeepitsme said...

The guy who played ted haggard got the sinister curl of the top lip exactly right.

February 19, 2007 12:15 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

And the annoying "oh, I am so, like, godlier-than-thou, you slimy scientist" inflection.

*Sneezes*

February 19, 2007 12:27 AM  
Blogger Kevin Scott said...

Kristine,

Shame on you for kicking the poor man. He has a BIRTH DEFECT. Some are born with a withered hand or a club foot. Some are born with mental retardation. Some are born (gasp) black.

Ted Haggard's birth defect was that he was born gay.

Until we find a permanent cure or a way to test for gayness in the womb, people will continue to be born gay. It's not nice to point at laugh at his birth defect, no matter how funny it is.

Conservative fundamentalist scientists have already begun to reduce the impact of blackness, and have managed to save many from the inward signs of the black birth gene, and as more and more people become aware of gayness gene there will treatment for that as well.

It's up to people like you to raise awareness for birth defects like this and help us find a cure.

Make sure you give to your local, state and national rebuplican party.

Working for the Cure,

Kevin

February 19, 2007 8:30 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

and as more and more people become aware of gayness gene there will treatment for that as well

Conservatives are fond of saying that if everyone owns a piece of land (e.g., a national park), then nobody owns it. So if we just make everyone gay, then there would be no gay people, then?

I'll take my Nobel Prize, please. :)

February 19, 2007 9:42 AM  
Blogger Rev. Barking Nonsequitor said...

I saw a clip of the original debate some time ago and only now realized it was Haggard that Dawkins was talking to - of course this is not that funny because it's too close to reality - Haggard was every bit as creepy as this actor.

Gee, maybe now that he is "normal" everything will be ok -- NOT!

February 19, 2007 9:54 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Did you see the earlier part, when Haggard had his arm around Dawkins (I'm so jealous) so that he could "explain things"? Dawkins definitely looked a little creeped out, not because he thought Haggard was gay, but because Haggard was so smarmy about it. ("Welcome to America! Can't you see the Islamification of Europe...blabbity blab...age of the earth, grandchildren will laugh at you...yakkity yak, *sneer.* Now get off my property! You called my children ["children"] animals!")

How anybody can tolerate Haggard's presence (let alone sleep with the dude) for three minutes (which is probably how long it takes, anyway) is beyond me.

February 19, 2007 10:34 AM  
Anonymous AJ Milne said...

...cute. But yeah, the original was definitely more scary.

Haggard has that smarm to the umpteenth power presence about him. The sort of ugly unctuousness that screams to me: 'turn this off... you'll get it all over you...'

Ye, I do not fear teh ghey. I fear the grease. The rancid pomade that doth suffocate and irritate and generally offend.

I laughed... out loud, and ruefully, at 'Don't be arrogant'. By then, it was all of a piece. You cannot satirize such material. It is its own satire.

I'll take my Nobel Prize, please.

Okay. Now you're just getting greedy.

February 19, 2007 10:39 AM  
Anonymous AJ Milne said...

...oh, and meant to say: congratulations. My excuse for forgetting: I was briefly blinded by the smarm.

February 19, 2007 10:41 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

I was briefly blinded by the smarm.

When I first saw the real exchange (click "Dawkins debates talking booger" under Must See Videos) I was so mad that I swear I couldn't see for a moment. I just made a comment at Pharyngula about how this whole discussion is about with whom Americans identify, and they don’t seem to identify with those “arrogant” scientists (who have saved countless lives), but with this nice, even-tempered, godly boob. Man, I don’t get it.

I left that small town in which I never felt I belonged, only to find a lot of America resembling that small town and proud of it. The whole “arrogant” thing is becoming weird. It’s “arrogant” not to believe in something that doesn’t exist? It’s “arrogant” to be curious about life? Whatever. It reminds me of the peer pressure not to “be too smart” in class (I experienced that, too).

Okay. Now you're just getting greedy.

I have suggested no less than three um, er, experiments meriting Templeton Foundation grants! (They’re around here somewhere… *Looks under Pharyngula rug*)

February 19, 2007 11:58 AM  
Blogger Spirula said...

Kristine,

I think the word "arrogant" from these people is actually a "tell" about the overwhelming evidence they must ignore to maintain their creationists views. They know the scientist have them cold on the arguments, so they try to deflect by implying the scientists are just being "prideful" and "arrogant", this being geared for their self-delusion and evilution-is-really-just-to-promote-atheism swallowing masses.

And yes. I used "swallowing" intentionally (I couldn't help myself).

February 20, 2007 3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A few entries ago, you were discussing global warming. An eyebrow or two of mine climbed toward my hairline at the notion that mankind is primarily responsible for the problem, since the earth has been going through cycles over the eons without any help from us "advanced" primates.

Then I did some InterNet research. You're on target.

More about this later.
Scotius the Skeptic

February 20, 2007 10:24 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

And yes. I used "swallowing" intentionally (I couldn't help myself).

Gets rid of the need for hankies, doesn't it?

*Not really. Gag.*

Blech. ;-)

You're on target.

I don't like doomsday scenarios and I don't make a charge like that lightly. I believe in the "peak oil" claims but I don't buy into the utopian dreams of some so-called liberals who want their version of the apocalypse. I wouldn't want to live in a commune with moonbats with whom I couldn't stand to share a dorm room (see here).

The fact is that our carbon footprint is huge. So is that of China and other countries, including the European Union. Global warming is real, it's happening, and I've been keeping track of this since the late seventies. Back in 1990 my geology professor hammered the global warming nay-sayers and being that in many respects he was rather conservative, I took what he said very seriously. I'm glad you did some research because of what I said.

February 20, 2007 11:01 PM  
Blogger breakerslion said...

Yes, indeed it was a talking booger... and how do you explain that? Are you trying to say that the talking booger happened by accident???? One minute the booger was just a booger and the next it was ALIVE??? Is this waht your so-called theory teaches????

It is written in Recidivis II, versus four and six: Then Gawd did hocketh up a loogie, and seeing it was good, did play with other body fluids. ...and then did he pulleth the booger from his cosmic nose (all praise the holy proboscis) and after examining its stickiness, did fashion legs and toenails thereon....

This clearly shows that GAWD DID IT!

Sorry, I was channeling a Fundie for a minute. I think that's what he said. It was a poor connection.

February 22, 2007 11:50 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Yes, Goddidit.

And He saw that it was goob.

(Sorry. You shouldn't encourage me.)

February 22, 2007 12:50 PM  
Anonymous AJ Milne said...

This clearly shows that GAWD DID IT!

Right conclusion, wrong pantheon...

I mean, clearly, so enormous a goober as Haggard could only have come from the nose of Ganesh.

February 22, 2007 12:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most of your Gentle Readers probably know that Ganesh is an elephant-headed Hindu god. I mention this for the sake of the miniscule minority of your GR's who weren't aware of that.

I dunno, AJ. What with my deviated septum and all, I've generated some Big Greenies from my own shnozz.

I'd be damned ashamed of them if they turned out like Haggard tho.' I'd drown 'em at birth if I knew they had such predilections.
Scotius The Heretic
PS: Ever hear of the dyslexic agnostic Hindu who doubted the existence of Hsenag?

February 22, 2007 1:25 PM  
Blogger PiGuy said...

Ever hear of the dyslexic agnostic Hindu who doubted the existence of Hsenag?

*wipes green tea from shirt and keyboard*

Maybe my threshold is low today but I think that's funny!

February 22, 2007 1:50 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Oh, hop on Ganesh you meanies. I like him! ;-)

February 22, 2007 3:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sinner, do you like my Ganesh?
Sinner, do you like my Ganesh?
Etc.
Soldiers of the elephant-headed god.
Scotius
PS: Then there was the dyslexic agnostic who doubted the existence of Suitocs.

February 22, 2007 10:30 PM  
Blogger Shalini said...

Ouch! I just broke a rib!

February 24, 2007 8:43 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Watch yourself there, Shalini!

Then there was the dyslexic agnostic who doubted the existence of Suitocs.

I don't believe in the Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS). But then, I'm not dyslexic.

February 24, 2007 2:55 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

But by the time I'm done hauling heavy reference books around and writing up my &^%$# huge assignment due Tuesday, I will be dyslexic! (That's why I haven't been around much, people...) *staggers*

February 25, 2007 3:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Shalini break a rib 'cause Ganesh stepped on her, or on account of my joke? Sure, I thought it amusing, but not that funny.
Mebbe she fractured herself because of violent hurling occasioned by my remark.

"Reference books,... assignments..." Be admonished, of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
Good ol' Qoholeth: he may have been the first agnostic-skeptic to make it into print.
suitocS eht citereH

February 25, 2007 7:48 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

You're not kidding. By the time I get home I'm exhausted! But it's not studying--it's answering research questions and preparing papers/indexes. Bleh. I'm almost done. New post is a-comin'!

February 25, 2007 10:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nigh on forty y'ar ago, I was bumping heads with creationists with letters to the editor in Columbia, SC. I once described the Bible as a mishmash of myths and fairy tales; you can imagine how that went over with the fundies: lead balloon, unpleasantness in punch bowl, screen door in submarine. But I really like Ecclesiastes. Whoever wrote it had some insights that carry weight even to this day.
S the H

February 25, 2007 11:46 PM  

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