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Master's Degree holder, telecommuting from the hot tub, proud Darwinian Dawkobot, and pirate librarian belly-dancer bohemian secret agent scribe on a mission to rescue bloggers from the wholesome clutches of the pious backstabbing girl fridays of the world.

Tuesday, February 06, 2007

Gödel, Eschy, Blech

Sal Cordova inaction again.

Shimmies to Growth Rate nlgn.

UPDATED: MarkCC also takes down Cordova again at Good Math, Bad Math. Over and above the call of shimmies, Mark - shimmies and snake arms!

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Anonymous Tyler DiPietro said...

Thanks for the props! I appreciate it.

February 07, 2007 10:32 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

No, thank you! (Props? I was once a theatre major.) ;-)

February 07, 2007 12:28 PM  
Blogger PiGuy said...

Both well-written and informative. I've learned a lot of math by reading MarkCC over the last year or so. Sal could too if he'd only read it. But, no.

My favorite retorts from both critics:

- "Complete and utter horseshit." Not just your basic horseshit.
- "...qualifies in scientific phraseology as “not even wrong”." One of my favorite scientist quotes ever (Wolfgang Pauli)
- "the entire fucking metric" (author's emphasis) This is the one that kills me. These dweebs keep completely misunderstanding the relationshop between randomness and incompressibility no matter how many times it's been ointed out. Mark has said this in seveal posts alone. I can't imagine how this isn't being pointed out all over the place. Even I get it!
- "Bullshit and nonsense!" Yup. Both.
- "...a thoroughly dreadful pile of crap." Dreadful indeed.
- "absolutely incorrect, on two levels" Only two?

February 07, 2007 8:17 PM  
Blogger PiGuy said...

uh, that would be "pointed"

February 07, 2007 8:18 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

I need to take more time to read these...and to get to G,E,B, which I just bought. This stuff is so fun (including the takedown of Sal), but I'm indexing my little heart out right now for class (a book on Christian morality, no less). ;-)

February 08, 2007 12:38 PM  
Blogger PiGuy said...

I read GEB about 10 years ago. It was very cool but quite challenging. In fact, it was one of the few books that I started but didn't finish. I don't usually do that. But I couldn't resist and went back to it.

In order to get the most out of it, it's worth trying to learn the math/programming language that he uses later in the book.

BTW: Hofstadter's father won the Nobel in Fizix for his work on the Mosbauer Effect (when electrons are scattered by the atomic nucleus). One of my professors worked in his lab as a grad student. It's not often that I get to spout geeky so I just had to when I had the oppotunity. :)

Index on, Girl!

February 08, 2007 3:37 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Index on, girl!

I’m done, dum-de-dum-dum. Just have to type it up. (I’ll bet I’m the only one in the class who pulled out verse quotes as headings. What a little goody-two-shoes I really am. Don’t tell anybody!)

Go to the library tomorrow, go to a party (a friend is moving to South Dakota, boooo), and then, yay! GEB, here I be! That’s the plan, anyway.

February 09, 2007 2:22 PM  

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