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Thursday, February 01, 2007

Dembski's Seminary Enforces "Suffer Not a Woman to Teach"

UPDATED: Hey, nobody asked me about the Baudelaire remark. Is that because everyone gets it? It's a joke about a French film. Can you guess which one? (One of my favs.)
This is a strange and outrageous story. I am linking to an overtly religious, dissident Baptist blog Grace and Truth to You because of the level of detail that it offers about the case.

In essence, a female professor of Hebrew, Sheri Klouda, was hired at Southwestern Theological Seminary, the same Bible school at which William Dembski teaches, around a year before the hiring of the current president, Paige Patterson. She was suddenly told that she would be dismissed due to my &%#@! favorite biblical passage of all time, I Timothy 2:12: "I permit no woman to teach or to have authority over men. She is to keep silent."

Such bullshit in this day and age I cannot believe. Just another example of the Christian Taliban howling and pounding the tables over nothing. And is a mother not supposed to teach her son anything? Just how erratically can the fundy clown car drive? The good news is, even among conservative Baptists a lot of men are calling this for what it is--gender discrimination.

Let me tell you something. If it weren't for women, the damn churches would close. Women do all the work while men strut their stuff at the pulpit. I've seen it. Women let them get away with that because they tend to see preachers as sexy (I'm not kidding, it happens all the time), but it is high time that women walk away from church if they cannot speak in it.

How do you say "Tell it to the air, Baudelaire" in Hebrew?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most, if not all, religions are silly, some of them disgustingly so. I consider fundamentalists to be just plain stupid.
Scotius the Heretic
P. S. The aggrieved lady would be welcomed with open arms at a UU seminary.

February 01, 2007 7:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More postscript-God must love stupid people; She made so goddam many of them.
S the H

February 01, 2007 10:52 AM  
Blogger dogscratcher said...

Them there is some wacky folk. But why any woman would submit to a religion that subscribed to biblical inerrancy is beyond me.
Inerrant is inerrant. Literally. I guess she should have read the whole thing first.

February 01, 2007 11:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pore chile wuz brung up in the faith, had it hammered into her afore she could develop good sense.
Sad fack: mos' fokes is dumber 'n' toads in a mudbank. They ain't got no smarts nohow.
S the H

February 01, 2007 12:21 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Man, blogger has been blowing it today. I haven't been able to post a comment here! :(

I see what you guys mean about inerrancy, but does anyone take the Bible absolutely literally? Do people not eat meat of cloven foot or think that sticking sticks in the ground in front of the herd makes one's goats bear striped children, etc.? Everyone picks and choses what they want to believe (unless you just don't buy it at all) and even then, there's some history and some geology alongside the myths.

The Southern Baptists have just gone hog wild with stupidity over women and yes, maybe it is time for women to think about what they're buying into.

February 01, 2007 4:32 PM  
Blogger dogscratcher said...

"but does anyone take the Bible absolutely literally? "

Some claim to, but I don't see how it could be possible if they actually read it.

As for the cloven foot thing, I believe orthodox Jews buy into that (hence no pork). The striped kid thing is harder to believe, but it really wouldn't surprise me.

In for a penny, in for a pound.

February 01, 2007 5:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take the Babble literally? About the only thing that the
apostle Paul and I agree upon is I Corinthians 11:14; "Long hair is a shame unto a man." That doesn't mean I figure a guy will land up in hellfire if he doesn't visit his barber frequently. I just don't care for long hair on men. How the hell can you go to hell when there sure as hell is no such place as hell.
S the H

February 01, 2007 8:49 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

How the hell can you go to hell when there sure as hell is no such place as hell.

Hell if I know.

February 01, 2007 9:42 PM  
Blogger Kevin Scott said...

You apostate Jezebel (oh wait, did I say that out loud?)

Just kidding.

Inerrancy is the refuge of the small minded. Surprisingly is it not just the refuge of the MALE small minded, it is embraced by woman as well.

We try to do our part--and glad you are too.

And I'm sure I told you this before, but just in case, thank you for displaying your award. You do deserve it.

February 02, 2007 12:13 AM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Thanks again!

February 02, 2007 3:07 PM  
Blogger PiGuy said...


February 02, 2007 6:37 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

And Bingo was his name-o!


February 07, 2007 12:29 PM  
Anonymous J-Dog said...

Yo, yo yo, You go girl! I would rephrase your question however to read, How do you say tell it to the finger in Hebrew?

February 09, 2007 3:08 PM  

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