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Saturday, February 02, 2008

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed at Uncommon Descent

Evolutionary biologist PZ Myers debated a creationist named Geoffrey Simmons, and William Dembski's intelligent design weblog, Uncommon Descent, linked to it.

PZ Myers shredded the uninformed and unprepared creationist, and even the true believers at UD started posting in the comments that PZ won and that they were disappointed in the performance of Simmons.

Uncommon Descent's post about the debate, and all of the comments, disappeared. Again. As they always do whenever the news is bad for intelligent design!

Fortunately, one of the commenters at our intelligent design watch forum, After the Bar Closes, saved the entire post.

Comment 10 Atom 01/31/2008 5:09 pm
I’m with you bFast, I was disappointed by Dr. Simmons’ arguments and performance and think PZ easily won the debate.Oh well, hopefully they’ll choose someone else for the anti-Darwin side next time…(Sorry Dr. Simmons!)

And Richard Dawkins has now linked to it.

People like Ben Stein, William Dembski, and other intelligent design apologists make a big noise about "censorship" because religion isn't being taught as science in science classes, but when it comes down to it, they are the ones who have something to hide!

Like Ben Stein making preview audiences (in megachurches) of his creationist film, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed, sign Non-Disclosure Agreements.

That's the mnemonic device Stein came back to, time and again, last night in an Orlando screening of his new documentary, Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. It's a rabble-rouser of a doc that uses all manner of loaded images, loaded rhetoric, few if any facts and mockery of hand-picked "weirdo" scientists to attack those who, Stein claims, are stifling the Religious Right's efforts to inject intelligent design into science courses, science curricula and the national debate.

He was showing the movie to what he and the producers hoped would be a friendly, receptive audience of conservative Christian ministers at a conference at the Northland mega-church next to the dog track up in Longwood. They're marking this movie, which they had said, earlier, they'd open in Feb. (now April) the same way they pitched The Passion of the Christ and The Chronicles of Narnia, said Paul Lauer of Motive Entertainment, who introduced Stein.

In other words, a stealth campaign, out of the public eye, preaching to the choir as it were in an effort to get the word out about the movie.

They postered the Orlando Sentinel with email invitations, then tried to withdraw the one they sent to me. No dice. They also passed out non-disclosure "statement of confidentiality" agreements for people to sign. I didn't.

What are they hiding from you? [emphasis mine]

Yes, what are they hiding from us? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

I'm familiar with a lot of the names of the commenters at Uncommon Descent. I wonder how these intelligent design supporters feel about having their comments deleted.

UPDATED: Rich Hughes at After the Bar Closes is the wizard of photoshop! And teh sexi hawt, may I say.

SECOND UPDATED: The "missing link" at Uncommon Descent is now posted at Panda's Thumb.

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Blogger Evolved Rationalist said...

"Delete! Delete! Delete!" must be UD's battle cry.

February 02, 2008 4:39 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

"Control" is their battle cry.

Control women (ever visit the website of Dembski's employer?), control children, control men. Especially control the men. Then you control all three.

Control the discussion. Control what people think, especially by claiming that scientists, of all people, control what people think! What a laugh.

These dingleberries really made a mistake this time. This is the deletion seen around the world.

February 02, 2008 8:19 PM  
Blogger Scott Hatfield . . . . said...

I wonder why the release date for 'Expelled' has been pushed back, given that they were originally hoping to rain on the Darwin Day parade. Anyone know anything?

February 02, 2008 10:06 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

They're just promoting the new release date as if the old one never existed.

I think they're not having a good response from their own hand-picked preview audiences.

Ironically enough, Ben Stein wrote a book titled, How to Ruin your Life.

February 03, 2008 11:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Promoting the new release date as if the old one never happen? Sounds like they have taken lessons from the Jehovah Witnesses.

I made this joke before but I have to repeat it. I do think it is rather funny. Millions now living will never evolve.

February 03, 2008 4:56 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

Bwahaha, that's pretty good, Janine!

If you're wondering what she's referring to, it's a statement by Rutherford.

February 03, 2008 8:04 PM  
Blogger J-Dog said...

In round two, DaveScot has now re-posted the link, BUT, deleted all the negative comments!

Orwell had nothing on these guys.


February 04, 2008 3:07 PM  
Blogger Kristine said...

After saying, "I meant to do that" about the deletion? What nerve.

He can talk about the "peanut gallery" all he wants. Big Shimmy is watching him.

February 04, 2008 6:27 PM  

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